Will the Time Commitment Required Being a Pararescuemen Hold Too Much Time From Home or Family ?
Personal and Family Life Impacts
EPISODE 26
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WELCOME TO THE Team ROOM! ON THIS EPISODE BRIAN, PEACHES AND TRENT SHARE THEIR EXPERIENCES REGARDING Family unit LIFE IN AFSPECWAR. SPOILER Alarm: Information technology AIN'T EASY.
INTRO
Intro00:03
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Peaches00:27
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Brian02:12
Yeah, we're definitely going to be talking nearly the family unit. If y'all guys are a person that has a family or thinking about having a family unit, we get a ton of questions virtually, like, hey, I've been dating this girl for a long time, or I've been you know, my wife and I are married and she's hesitant nigh me joining this career field and she wants to know what it's all about. And if we tin can have a regular life Well, I'm going to I'thou going to interruption it to you right now. Information technology'southward not going to be a normal life because that's non what we're normal. Yeah, exactly. Normal is Yeah, I gauge normal compared to everyone else. Similar, all of usa right hither. It'll be normal. Just you know, compared to the dude, that stock shelf at Walmart and goes habitation, non so much.
FIRST TIME SEEING YOUR FAMILY
Peaches03:05
What is the commencement fourth dimension yous get to see your family unit? Afterward you went to bones? Like you personally what not what the what is the rule at present simply at what point during your career did you commencement become to run into your family unit after basic?
Trent03:xviii
Alright, so I'm going to start with I promise my parents don't sentinel this because I don't want to embarrass them. Only actually, I thought it was a pretty skillful thing. My, my male parent was in the Air Force. And before I shipped out, he kind of looked at me and was like, his, his attitude was its Air Forcefulness bones training. If yous don't graduate, similar Well, you lot know what I mean? And so, I'm at graduation, your parents can't come but my parents did non testify upwardly because, you lot know, it's not like I came from a super-rich family or annihilation and also, it's Air Force bones training, so it wasn't seen every bit similar some huge, monumental event. And then, I didn't see them until virtually halfway through tech schoolhouse. I guess when nosotros went on Christmas break or winter interruption or what Whatsoever'due south politically correct these days, and I went home was able to meet my family virtually six months subsequently I joined.
Peaches04:05
Okay, how near you Brian?
Brian04:07
My family flew out. Considering no one in my family unit had ever joined the armed forces. Like I said on a couple previous podcasts, like pretty much nobody in my family was military and they didn't know annihilation about it. They just knew like, oh, you're an airman now Congratulations, we did the whole thing and went downwards the Riverwalk and walked around with all the other people that had no stripes and they're walking down the Riverwalk with their families and shaved heads and they're e'er thankful for our service. Yep, so that was the first fourth dimension I got to meet my media family unit. I didn't take a wife or anything. At the times, it was merely like, hanging out with the family unit for a couple days. And the next time was on after that was to my judge, I graduated Kirtland on a couple years.
Peaches05:ten
Wow, that's pretty. It'southward pretty long. For me it was they came to graduation. And and then I spent a pregnant amount of time at INDOC, which and then went to wintertime break. And then, it's like, Alright, well, I'll go back for that too. Just I didn't have plenty go out saved upwards. So, I ended upward kind of going in the hole only they allow me become anyhow. Because if not, they were kind of worried that we're going idle easily go far problem. All the cadre when y'all go home to if all the students don't leave, and that'south just more than stuff we accept to take intendance of. So, it's basically it'due south encouraged during that day you become home, go back to where you lot came from. Exactly. Just I mean, I'll tell yous what, dude, I was so young that I was so homesick. I've simply, you know, really my first time away from home. I was grew up in a really good household and just man, it was information technology was rough on me just being that immature. And I think that that translates into why a lot of the older guys do well in the pipeline and why a lot of the cross trainees exercise because they've already, they already have a life at that betoken. And they're trying to ameliorate and motility forward. Whereas I didn't really get that concept as a equally a young dude.
Brian06:28
Yep, I tell the same matter though. The people that asked like, Am I too onetime if I'thou 29 years quondam to do the pipeline and stuff. And then similar, at that indicate, you're mostly the person that y'all're going to be for most of your life like, I think, honestly, 25, 26, 27 in that area is where I really started to form the person I stopped like, what why am I going out and doing all this dumb stuff when I could be doing something different or my the rest of my life because I hopefully have another xv years or so after the my 30s. But anyway, that was a when you kind of develop and you're kind of setting your gear up your decisions and your situation you lot're like, Alright, I'm telling my family, I'thousand going to do this. Then now I tin can't go home and my wife and my kids and say that I failed and that kind of thing. So that kind of kicks in. And so we talked about that in some of the other podcasts. But aye, I think that's really important whenever you get to that age goes well So since we're talking about family anyhow.
Peaches07:29
For PJ's Brian, specifically, when do like if a guy is married nosotros've got a cantankerous trainee or possibly even a new recruit that happens to be married for a PJ because this is different across you know the three Special Warfare career fields, but as a PJ, when will your wife get the motion with y'all?
Brian07:49
Right, and so yous're going to do your basic grooming thing. Y'all're going to go straight into the development form and then you go to ns later on ns is pre dive and Then you become to dive. So, all in all a couple months there, and and so you lot PCs from dive schoolhouse over to Kirtland Air Force Base of operations. And that's what yous actually go to join you and you'll be able to live in on base housing kind of thing. Spouse lives with you, and you get to kind of have a normal life, you'll be training and yous'll exist like running to school and practise all that kind of affair. But at the end of the twenty-four hours, one time you're done training, and if you're not TDY, then you'll get to get habitation and you get to see your wife and she'll go to hang out with you. So that's how it is for the PJ pipeline. I'yard not sure about Trent, Jared, what do you guys got on the CCT side of the house or SR.
Trent08:39
And then, I mean, we were talking about this a piddling fleck earlier the podcast, with the way that the pipeline is working out. It looks like information technology might exist a PCs to Pope to the apprentice course. Which only like the PJ's would be the offset time I recollect that your wife volition be able to come out and join you. Because the length of time that our guys are going to spend in that location, but yeah, I mean, it regarding if it'due south there or at Hurlburt Y'all know, you're preparation, you get to come domicile, your wife or significant other is going to learn all kinds of fun new words. Learn what being smoked means and all kinds of other interesting things that happened to you
Brian09:12
How to do laundry actually well or if you learn how to do laundry yourself really though, mud and fun times going through the pit.
DAYS WE ARE GONE
Trent09:22
Were you dragged through the mud today, like well, yes, yeah, I was. Simply that Trent that is if this new initiative gets approved, right, right now information technology's a they come across you at Hurlburt Field during once you make it at STTS. Yeah, I think typically, that's what nearly people practice. So that's the same for Combat Controller. So, I want to take the next question, because I'm super excited about it because we become a lot. So, I'm going to inquire Brian, and it's kind of an open-ended question and I didn't attach time frame to it. How many days are y'all gone every yr?
Brianten:00
Well, I volition tell you, my first ii years equally a PJ has gone over 300 days, and I was when I was stationed over in England. You know, I was plain the new guy when I showed up in England. And I didn't want to exist that guy that was similar, Well, I don't really want to keep this TDY or turn downwardly stuff. I was excited to go on TDYs and I really wanted to do everything that I could. I was like, finally I'm gratis. I'm operational. I can go do real, you lot know, big male child things. You lot know, people were nevertheless holding my hand because I was a new guy, but still, I get to go out and do cool stuff. So, I said yep to every TDY and I think I've mentioned it earlier my first TTY was with Peach over in Vegas, which I didn't actually honestly need to continue. They're only like a couple line items that we're going to be signed off on. And on that trip, which is y'all know, ECAS for me because it was a trip to Nellis to do some bomb dropping basically And I was like, sign me upward. We got to, y'all know, I got to go and do a lot of absurd stuff. Only I was gone over 300 days, my kickoff year. Plain, I was in a by and large civilized countries where I can just have my phone, talk to whoever I needed to my family and stuff. And so, there's nonetheless ways to keep in contact, merely you lot're going to exist on the road a lot, specially your showtime couple years trying to get those upgrades and jobs out and so you can go the side by side level.
Peaches11:56
Yeah and that was an interesting time, because while we were there or peradventure information technology'due south a you know, eight years out there it'due south kind of a blur a piddling scrap simply there was a fourth dimension where we were going to move the squadron to a different location only choice upward and movement it and information technology didn't finish upwardly happening but they had also turned off moves. Then, we weren't getting experienced guys and we weren't getting new guys. And so, people are all the same leaving though. And then, the guys that were already dominant, you know, 250-280 days of the year crash-land upward because those requirements, those requirements still existed they weren't going away. With those limits compress when you lose people It's weird. Aye, funny. Funny how that doesn't work.
Brian12:49
Then, I must have gotten there right later you guys plow the faucet back on because there are only three days there whenever I first got there.
Peaches12:56
Yep. So that's why there were so few. Which why it took so long for upgrade for you lot know, it takes a long time to upgrade PJs anyway. Merely that was part of the challenge because at the time if I call back I was the only JTAC Instructor out at that place. And man, it was he was busy. Yeah, the new guy shows upwardly and like you guys are like we're so happy to run across you there like this isn't the reception I was expecting simply merely please, please help us. Nosotros used to get to we used to drive to London to get meet the guys at the airport.
Brian13:31
That's what I was going to say the commander and everybody met me at the airport and I was like whoa, this is awesome. Anybody'due south like excited to run across me why are you lot so excited?
Peaches13:43
Next calendar week have fun simply yeah, yeah, exactly. No, I mean I to be honest, though, I'd rather exist decorated and merely kind of sitting on my thumb you know what I mean?
Brianthirteen:56
Yep. Oh, those similar for you guys as far as time away. For the first couple of years,
Trent14:04
So, I mean, it's pretty similar the run is those starting time two years were 300 plus days off station both years. And information technology was glorious. Yeah. Yous know, you show up. And information technology was funny though, because I showed up in my unit. And they were like, hey, and I showed up in March. And they're like, you take a training slot for January to go to STTS/AST. It was it'southward a long story. I'chiliad not going to get into that. And they're like, nothing. You're not going to do annihilation. Until and so. I was like, cool. Two weeks later, I TDY. And and so I ended up deploying before I even went to the STTS but, I mean, it was crawly. But similar, it's the same way. Similar I didn't even the thought didn't fifty-fifty occur to me to try to say no to TDYs, considering it's similar, this is why I'm hither. This is amazing. Yeah. I hateful, yeah. Okay. So, oh, you lot know, full disclosure. Yes, there are trips that you will have to go on that are not fun and they're not great and you will go similar why am I here? Like what are we really doing? But those are few and far between about of the trips are awesome trips where you're like Dude, I'm bro'ing out and we bring support people with us like shooting schools and driving schools and all that kind of stuff. It's merely a blast. Why would y'all give that up?
Brian15:22
The simply real trips that I tin recollect of that you're that I would retrieve like, why am I here kind of thing was those ones that we were doing like, the ORIs and we're sitting at that place and not for him, we were just similar antisocial life, like taping off all these piddling cordons or whatever and looking for y'all. Then that was the only time that I was simply we were still in Romania and it was really awesome.
Peaches15:51
Well, for me, it was. Let's see my first assignment. It was pretty much back to back deployment from Transitional islamic state of afghanistan to Iraq with some training beforehand, training on the backend, so I PCS'd right over to anyone and one time I was in England, I was pretty steady gone, except for probably last year or two. A good 250 to 300 days out of the yr. So got a little sporty occasionally.
Trent16:26
I think they'd similar you know, those first two years I've talked nigh before is I talk to people when I was training to become a SOWT of the time then my first few years on Team yet, I didn't, I didn't talk to my family that much. Y'all know, like, I try to get dwelling house when I could. But, I mean, yeah, I was decorated. And I don't know you kind of but, I lost track a fiddling bit of my family and where they were and everything that was happening, you know, that the greater world it's funny similar the NFL all suddenly, you know, I used to be kind of like an NFL football fan. And during those 2 years, like I lost track of all of that, you know, and past the time I fabricated back. I was like, well, who won the last two Super Bowls and people giving me the stink centre like how do you not know this? I'yard like, I've been decorated. You know what I mean? At least for the overseas guys, whenever there would be a trip back to the States, and that guy was training a lot of times but to save money. Then, he wasn't ownership an overseas ticket, he would he would go along a trip or yous know, go on a TDY and so like on the front end or the back end, become visit their family.
MITIGATING BURN OUT
Brian17:29
Yeah, that's what I would practise. And honestly, information technology's just like yous said, Trent, information technology was kind of all merely mixed together from one state to another land. You're like, checking passports at that betoken, similar my passport book was just filling upwardly and nosotros're simply traveling all over the place jumping in Normandy, and like, similar I said, Romania, Norway, merely all over Europe. And it was really awesome as I was 22 at that time, and I was just, you know, wired to become and see the world and simply travel and that's it. I of the things that I dear the most about England because you lot're traveling with all of your all-time friends to different countries, getting into, you know, really awesome situations and really impaired situations. But at the cease of the mean solar day, you lot know, you make it out of at that place and you lot express joy well-nigh it, all the things that you got to practise. Merely it was actually crawly to exist able to get and but experience all that stuff and become paid, doing all those things. So that was nada. It was amazing. All right, and so speaking most being gone, you know, 200-300 days per year, and I'll become to Jared on this 1. Because I know you've had to deal with it a lot. Because y'all're ever gone and y'all're always doing things you lot're e'er, y'all know, working a jobbing information technology out because that's our mental attitude. How do you lot prevent burnout, you know, between all these different things that you have going on? What are some of the strategies that you have? you'd recommend guys,
Peaches18:55
I can tell yous correct at present how the how the career field tries to maintain a adept operator balance to brand sure or at least endeavor and mitigate some of the burnout from the operators is to, yous'll practice a certain corporeality of time on team, you know, maybe information technology's four years, five years. And and so you know you inside that time you've had several deployments. And so from there, you'll potentially become to an instructor gig, where you're home well-nigh of the time, in that location still could be occasional TDYs, simply you're pretty much habitation and you're going to be there for three to 4 years, depending on what the location and the task is. Then yous can go straight dorsum to a squad and you can be on a team knock out some more than deployments, or at that place'due south also opportunity for schools. There'due south opportunity to get be office of a staff at a major command. I mean, really, I saw guys and myself also I was like, Hey, human being, I've been jobbing I need to just like put me in a position fifty-fifty still within the unit give me six months to simply catch up on appointments, my life, my family, like give me a run a risk to catch out. And and so after six months put me correct back on team. And nosotros would practice that for guys. Other than that, I merely made sure that I hit the gym every mean solar day that I cared because even now that'south the only way that I stay sane.
Trent20:36
I think specially after y'all're married, and and then subsequently you take kids, you accept to every bit an operator or a team guy, you have to, you really take to await at your family, because it's not really most of our nature to be similar, hey, you're called-for me out and it'southward you lot have to start trying to balance that out yourself a piffling bit, to a sure extent or you have to lookout out for your boys you know and exist similar You know this dude, how's your family doing? Yous know, you have to inquire your bros about it. Because they might, y'all know, they might non be thinking near it that much, or they might non even realize, you know, the effects that it'south having on their personal life. So yeah, you just you have to sentry out for yourself and watch out for your boys and lookout man out for your family, or your teammates. I shouldn't call them boys anymore. Right? That'due south, that's bad. Only yous know what I mean and yous know, I recollect nosotros all fall into that trap every once while I was like, you, you have this like your kickoff love, at least for me, considering I didn't become married until y'all know, my first couple rotations is similar, your commencement honey is team life, you know, and you like being gone, and you like being on the job, and y'all're similar doing all these other things. And and so attempt to add, you know, people into that, and you might not know that you're stressing them out, and then they starting time to stress you out. And before you lot know it, you lot're driving on the road and you're feeling a little bit out of control. And you're like I don't...what is this? You know? And sometimes Yes, that takes yous know, you're one of your friends, your teammates to be like, dude, peradventure y'all should think about what's going on and maybe you lot Take a interruption and maybe talk to your supervisor almost information technology or who or whoever. Yes, a lot of times it's non something that you internally volunteer and recognize information technology takes an outside vocalisation to kind of slap some sense into you.
Brian22:16
Yes that's happened to me a lot as I've been going through like not simply a pipeline of a PA school, in that location'south a lot of times where I'thou merely stressed out and and then my wife, she's similar, are you okay? Like what'south going on with you? Why are you just getting upset nearly all these little things that are going on and it'south simply like Ah, sorry, I didn't realize it Okay, I got this exam I got you know, all this stuff going on. And past just like on squad is the same way you should be like, like I was proverb y'all're going TDY back and forth with all these dudes and you're spending more than fourth dimension with them than you are honestly your own family for a while there. So, you lot know, whenever yous testify upward ane twenty-four hour period and be see whoever merely in the corner not wanting to talk to people or just sipping his coffee, like non wanting to look at anybody. You like, Dude, what's going on? Like, I was similar, what's going on? Talk to me. And so, yeah, those are huge things. And I used to say the same affair to guys that were in pick. And doctors just await at the guy next to y'all shows up to work or formation, and he'south all messed upwardly and he's not wanting to talk to anybody not eating his food or you know, just, something's a little off. Talk to that dude, because you're going to demand it later on whenever they're having a good day and you lot're not having a good mean solar day. Then, I call up that'south one of the large things and as a leader, y'all should be able to recognize that for certain. You just say, Hey, dude, merely let this guy, go accept a breather. Just so he can get his listen right. And they'll be over that is he'due south beholden for letting that letting them accept that time to simply bent. Come back to work. All right. Get ahead, have your time. Merely whenever we come dorsum to piece of work, let me know and we will get set to rock and roll. All right. So simply having that dorsum and forth. relationship and knowing the dude.
TALKING TO Family unit WHILE DEPLOYED
Peaches24:02
Yous got to know when to have dudes off TDYs. Like if y'all're that true primary for that troop commander, or you're in some kind of leadership role, you've got to be able to recognize that guy and like, yous know what, he may not want to talk about help right now or, you know, talk with me and only vent. Merely maybe this side by side 2-week TDY is not the best for him. Then why don't I leave him home and just let them work on himself encouraged him to take leave or whatever it may be?
Trent24:33
Nosotros have a We take a saying in the armed forces, right. Like, information technology's not just the military member that joins the armed services. It'due south the whole family joins the military machine; I remember especially for career fields similar this. It'south specially true and I'k kind of trying to talk to the people out there that have a spouse that are thinking well-nigh joining like you need to have some really open and honest communications and understand what you both are getting yourselves into because information technology'due south an it's a two mode street. And I retrieve the more communication Take on the front terminate and expectation direction. I think it helps a lot. Otherwise, you know, if yous're just like, Hey, I'one thousand going to go bring together this thing. And they're similar, cool, that sounds cool. And you don't go through, like, in reality, what it's going to actually mean. It can make it harder than information technology has to be. Trent, when you're on that deployment, how often do you get to talk to your family? I mean, it depends on the deployment. I've had, like my offset deployment, we didn't have a lot of communications. So, it was kind of hard to get a line out. We're kind of in the heart of nowhere. And, yous know, we're notwithstanding pooping in buckets. And so, you know, I talked to my family every once in a while, and so if I had deployments where, you know, had my cell phone and you know, our columns were much better. And I was able to telephone call home one time or twice a week or every day if I really needed to, depending on what was happening. And so there's deployments where you're just you can't talk that much or I hateful, it'south just information technology's not beneficial to talk that much. Because what do you information technology's like what are you doing? It's like, naught. What are you lot? What are you doing?
Brian26:xiii
What did y'all eat for dejeuner and dinner? Over again, I had a salad with craven again, I put barbecue sauce on it instead of ketchup this time.
Peaches26:23
I mean, depending on the location. You're you lot could potentially take Wi-Fi perhaps not. Simply you'll have some kind of connectivity. And and then in that location'due south obviously satellite phones and all that kind of stuff. Merely even and then, so say you don't have Wi-Fi and when you're dealing with a satellite phone, you're yet probably not calling every twenty-four hours. I hateful, that'due south unless something's going on at home. You know, it's just information technology'south not that it'due south some pain in the ass. It's just that if you're at a remote FOB and they don't have much of them except for one satellite telephone, every dude wants to use that. So, it's not benign a call on every single day.
Brian27:05
Yep. At present yes, depends on the location though. There are places that I've been that were just like, Alright, you got Wi-Fi pretty much. You walk down the street and there's a little something that has Wi-Fi, yous tin can just send an email text or whatever, like, Hey, I'yard good or something.
Peaches27:26
Yes. I volition say don't do what I did. I went iii weeks without calling my wife. And during that time, I had gotten into some stuff and gotten injured. And somebody else told my wife, like, simply in passing because she merely kind of causeless that, that my wife knew and she didn't. And then, I felt that one a little chip. I'm not feeling it out. Just information technology was definitely similar, yeah, that was really dumb. Why didn't I just selection up the phone call or then when I got hurt again, it was immediate, similar, Hey, what'south up? I'grand good. You know, that kind of thing? Yes, hearing the bad news from somebody else when you should hear it from your significant other, mostly doesn't go over that well.
Trent28:31
Yeah, well, and OPSEC is hard, right? Sometimes you desire, yous know, be like, Hey, I can't talk to you for a while. They're like, how long is a while you lot're like, I can say, it could exist like, you lot know, I don't know. You know, yous don't desire to say it because it'southward, it is what it is.
Brian28:49
That'southward the thing that you lot got to be careful with. You're like, I'g going to call y'all on this twenty-four hour period. And and so for some reason, you know, something pops off and you're not able to telephone call them because you're gone or you're doing whatever yous out to some other Trick and you just similar, crap, now they're going to think that something's incorrect. I don't know how I'thousand going to ship a bulletin. They're going to sit downwards. They're going to be calling everybody.
Peaches29:09
No news is good news.
Bachelor Resources
Trent29:12
I remember to that signal, information technology's important when you first get on team to brand friends, like, maybe not friends, but like you need to know your supervisor or some of the more experienced guys on team and maybe meet their family, become your family to come across their family unit, and then that your significant other but isn't stuck in the dark thinking the worst possible things they can perchance encounter. Because all they know is Hollywood movies. And if you lot don't call them, you're definitely never coming home or whatever. And then they can be like, hey, it's cool. This happens all the fourth dimension. And kind of help them through it. Having that support system and thinking of support. Speaking of support systems, Brian, what resource are available to help mitigate, you know, impacts on the family and personal stress and all those other types of things?
Brian29:52
Yeah, so, I mean, the biggest thing that we did was the squadron Commander'south married woman or ane of the spouses kind of but always ready a piffling group and they talk to each other, at least tell each other what's going on when they're coming home, what the situation is on, you lot know, just the deployment overall, and changes that take happened. And that is comforting. My wife has never been like actually relying heavily on whatever is going on. And she'due south pretty self-sustaining. Although in that location are times when she wants to go information and but to know, like, Hey, I Oh, no, and I haven't able to contact Brian, you know, what'southward, what'southward going on with him. So, she has a third political party or that or the shirt. You can ever if you're a wife, you tin talk to the shirt and they'll assistance you lot out and get whatever resolved because there are times when, you lot know, just stuff happens at the firm and they need help or something. And usually it'd exist, you know, me doing whatever has to be washed. But the squadrons are awesome considering they accept just people that are willing to help out for a person on deployment because they know that if everything's not good at home with the kids, the wife and everything, then that's on your mind when you're on deployment. And we don't want anybody in a state of affairs where they take to be thinking about other stuff that'southward back home when they've taken their focus off of what'southward going on over there in theater. So those are some of the bigger resources that nosotros had at the squadron as well equally similar resilience training. And I'yard sure you guys volition go into all the resilience and the little trips that we used to have later and stuff similar that.
Peaches31:30
Yeah, and that's such a, an amazing nugget and program that we have in place that, you know, Special Operations Command specifically put in place. And I mean, I tin't think of whatever person that inside Special Tactics or Special Warfare that hasn't utilized the majority of those functions that they provide, and I know nosotros've gone over information technology in the past but just to kind of run down and I'm sure I'll forget somebody or a position but the POTFF has got a mixture of psychiatrists, social workers, dietitians, force double-decker, concrete therapist, a flight doc, a sports medicine person, am I leaving i out, I'grand kind of doing this off the height of my head chaplain likewise. And ordinarily there's likewise an IDMT mixed into that too to help out with some of the medical scenarios or a PA also. It's merely that the community in full general is super supportive. Then I mean, it's, it's pretty amazing as far equally I can tell, yous know, I'grand, my married woman isn't yous know, she doesn't need a lot of help all the time or she has maybe a better agreement than some of the other spouses of what's going on. Just in that location's always people that are bachelor and all your friends and all their spouses and it's, it's comforting when you're heading out the door to know that all those things are available and they don't simply care about y'all, they care about you lot know, your whole life considering they want you to be able to practice your job. Yeah. Considering if you're focused on the home life, you can't focus on the mission.
Brian33:09
Yes, the idea is kind of call up of the special operations in the Air Force as kind of like an airplane and they have all these maintainers they take all these assets to keep the, you know, get up and running. Information technology's the same thing for the guys that are going out the door to similar the controllers, SRP J'southward and everything. Want to keep y'all every bit mentally sharp as possible emotionally, yous know, spiritually, all those, all those things every bit sharp as possible then you can execute the mission without any stoppage merely like you're maxim. So that's kind of the idea behind the preservation of the force and family initiative, but to take care of the dudes and take care of the families so anybody could run as efficiently as possible.
HAVING KIDS OVERSEAS
Peaches33:52
Well, I estimate this one's probably for me, huh? So yeah, only 1 that had kids overseas.
Brian33:57
I only wanted to throw this out at that place. For anybody. That'due south going to be, y'all know, has kids and they're thinking about joining the military, we're talking about living in a dissimilar country, you and I were stationed in England. Then, yous know, not a lot of people don't go to experience that or accept their kids experienced that. So, what was information technology like to take your kids growing upward in a different country? I guess y'all're in a unique state of affairs since your is too British,
Peaches34:24
I think information technology was phenomenal just because it the opportunities that information technology provided, I mean, I was able to take my daughter to Stratford-Upon-Avon where Shakespeare, you know, was built-in his business firm where he did all his writings where he'd walked in London and so go in through and take my daughter in or the my family unit too because at that fourth dimension, my son was newborn but, you know, taking him around to all the Tower Span, they've been to Parliament, you know, all those different historical things, just making them more cultural you aware than y'all know what they know, here at present in America? That'due south not the only thing that exists. There's other stuff out at that place that y'all can learn from and y'all can take characteristics from information technology's just life learning.
Trent35:16
No, that's when you walk through and so y'all're like, Okay, in 1776 this is what happened. These people were condign a little oppressive. And so, you know, nosotros had to bow upward on them a scrap.
Peaches35:37
But it was to go dorsum to information technology is phenomenal. Having the kids over there and they have that experience. And now, you know, they come across things, or at least my daughter sees things and recognizes names. It's like, Oh, yeah, and we become hey, y'all've been there. So we show pictures like, Oh, I started to remember it now. So, it was information technology was really good. I call back the overall experience is pretty good for kids.
Trent36:21
You know, I like in a right now I get to be similar, can pull up the world and show my kids. Yous know, where I've been, where mom'due south been in all these different things. They're like, Oh, what's it like, you lot know, at present I can pull up a YouTube video and be like, Yeah, actually, there's like a movie coming out be similar, this is this is CoP Keating and it was a terrible place; you know. Only I hateful, it's, I think it helps open their eyes to really how big and diverse the world is, and and then give them different perspectives.
Brian36:39
I felt like I was a child when I was beginning going out there and Europe and like experiencing different cultures for the offset fourth dimension. And not simply reading about it in a book and meeting all these people helped me grow every bit a person overall. So aye, I'd love to be able to take my kids over to a dissimilar land i day, merely bear witness them similar, hey, there'southward not a Chick-fil-a effectually every corner. You don't get to accept that. McDonald'south or Happy Meals or whatever, well, maybe you do, I judge McDonald's kind of everywhere now. Merely yous know, but the things that we take for granted as Americans, a lot of other countries don't really get to take. And they take a bunch of other unlike traditions that are awesome. And so, I retrieve information technology'southward really cool to be able to share that kind of stuff.
Peaches37:17
Y'all demand it to get to a country that has siestas, and yous're like, Alright, cool. Let's get out for something to east so you're like, wait, dude, it's empty. In that location'due south no one around. siesta.
Trent37:28
We call a nap fourth dimension. They call siestas. It's whatever information technology'due south cool.
Brian37:31
Yeah, I always get hungry during siesta.
Peaches37:38
Like, no wonder these Americans are so fat.
Trent37:40
I think it starts a basic though. I mean, you realize how different people in unlike parts of America are, you know, so like Guam and Puerto Rico, and you get all meshed in together. And I don't know I think overall, it's a skilful experience for family members.
Brian37:57
To have nosotros had in basic training. We had people that have never tasted a taco. I had never tasted chicken cordon bleu before I went to bones training, just a piffling bit dissimilar, but you know, I'm just saying the civilization, the mixing of cultures. Alright, so, last question. Simply because I get a lot of people, I'm sure we all get a lot of people that ask the question like, Tin can I have a family? I don't think this, you lot know, spec wars for me, because I take a family unit and I desire to go down the family route. And so, what would you guys say to those guys that are thinking about joining and have a family unit and they're only like, I don't think it's for me considering I take a family or I want to accept a family one 24-hour interval.
REALITY WITH A FAMILY
Peaches38:42
Okay, and then I'll take that one. Beginning. I would say careful, not jumping right into it considering you lot are going to accept regrets and I call up we're Trent mentioned you have that open, honest conversation and communication because you really exercise have to be up front and honest. If you hibernate something like that, similar, Hey, I'yard going to exist deployed this monitor, I'grand going to be, you're going to be sleeping alone this much like, that would be messed upwardly to hide that. So every bit long every bit yous're upfront honest, and you go that support, go for it. Because if not, yous're just going to regret it that that is going to stick with y'all for a very long time.
Trent39:32
Yes, y'all know, you know, it's people that are like, we're going to accept a child to salvage our marriage. Yous know? Similar, that's how I call back about information technology. Like, we say that we, to me, it's all kind of the aforementioned thing. Nosotros say, hey, the pipeline is hard. The career field is hard. It'due south hard to exercise what we do. More often than not what y'all guys do. I'm pretty piece of cake. But that makes it all worth it, correct? And y'all need to approach everything in life in the same way. I think if you lot do, open and honest, I'll be honest with you lot honest with other people and realize that it'southward going to exist hard, simply the payoff for doing difficult things is typically pretty amazing. So, I mean, that's how I approach it, correct? You play the long game you say, this is going to be difficult and and so, you know, sometimes it'due south pretty hard. So, it tin can be hard across the board and then there's always unforeseen things, y'all're gone. Maybe more than than y'all thought you were going to be. There are always new things that come like the what'south an average day like for you guys? And we're always like, nosotros don't know. You lot know what I mean? We're gone all the time. things come upwardly. And that's hard. That'due south hard for you. Information technology's hard for your family, you lot know, and so y'all take kids and but from my experience in where I'm at, things are notwithstanding pretty practiced. And yeah, you piece of work actually hard at it just like anything else. And you know, it is what it is. It'southward pretty crawly. Aye, well, y'all never know when there's something to like boot off whether it's a hurricane rolling through and at present you get alerted or in that location the plane crash you know.
Brian41:00
Aye, I want to just throw this out there too for those guys that are like, Well, I have a girlfriend. And she doesn't like the thought of me joining Special Warfare. I only want to put out my own experience. I had a girlfriend earlier I came in also. And she didn't similar the idea of me doing what I wanted to practice. So, she'south not my, I don't know where she is anymore. Honestly. I said, this is what I want to do in my life. And if the person doesn't want to, you know, support me in what I want to practise, it's probably going to be the same for a lot of other things that we encounter in our life. And so, you have to like Peach was saying, you accept to go for those things that you are really passionate about. And realize when yous're nineteen, 20, 21, like I said, you lot're still kind of forming the person that you are and earlier you accept all these experiences around the world and traveling, hanging out with adults, you know, in the military that are strict. They're going to teach you how to practice your finances, teach y'all how to, like exist an developed in real life because I didn't, I wasn't an adult until, like I said, after I probably moved away from England and had my own business firm. So, it took a long fourth dimension. I wasn't the same person on the other end that I was earlier I joined the military. So, like I said, if you lot have a girlfriend, and yous practice think that information technology might be worth it, or might non, but you guys are already disagreeing on this ane thing that you really want to do. Don't brand yourself regret what yous would have been able to do in the futurity and be you know, 45, l years one-time, unable to join the Air Force and do the affair that you lot wanted to do. So, I merely want to throw that function out there. But for me, I seen a ton of people, yous know, include myself in the Air Force, and I've had to deploy multiple times and still have a family unit. It's all just what yous practice with the time that you have. Every minute that I'm home, I'grand, you know, dissever between a one thousand thousand different things at any given moment, but anytime that I do something, especially when it'due south with my kids, my wife, you know, I requite information technology 100% attention and attempt and allow them know, whenever I'one thousand here, similar, all of my attention is for you lot, and I'm going to pay attending because I dear you and that kind of stuff. Then there's a remainder that you have to find between that like, okay, I've been doing whatever this is for a long time, and I need to really focus because I've been not spending time with my kids and I know it and they're interim like, they haven't been spending time with me. And you know when that is, so it'due south all about simply making that balance. It's, it's a, it's a game, yous're going to mess upwardly a lot of times, and y'all're going to take a lot of arguments and you're going to go along to do that no matter how skillful at balancing you get, information technology's just going to happen. But those are some of the things that I would recommend for guys. It'due south not similar it's a zero similar, you shouldn't do If you desire a family, it's simply near how mature you lot want to exist in. Yous know, if you intendance about more than i thing, then residue those out effigy out a way, only like everything else nosotros do. You guys got annihilation else on that?
Trent44:13
I'm glad to cover the girlfriend thing. I mean, I used to tell the guys at prep, like, you lot know, similar I wasn't ready to be married until after my kickoff couple rotations. You know, I had my list of things to practice. And I don't think I was prepared for how much my starting time couple deployments inverse me and kind of opened my eyes to the world and changed my viewpoints on a lot of things. And yeah, like, 10s attract 10s you know, similar you accomplish your goals, and it is what information technology is and yous get the person that you desire to be. And and so I call up it makes things a lot easier. Merely if you already have that person with you lot and you already you know, have that that foundation, then they need to be along for the ride back up you lot to get who you want to exist, but merely make sure that you Your support back. You're reciprocating the right fashion.
Peaches45:02
Brian got annihilation else? I'yard going to wrap this upwardly and summarize. Okay, we appreciate you guys joining us some of the things that nosotros covered today was, hey, how much are you actually going to run across your family and what are some of the limitations involved with y'all being on Squad, deploying, being an instructor and just know that Special Warfare is going to endeavour and do their best to take care of you and your family. And that's the same with Special Operations Command as well. And your directly supervisor should be looking out for yous likewise. And at least from my experience, I remember every single one of my supervisors have always looked out for me and because they're so experienced, recognized that I needed to take a pace back or maybe similar, possibly they didn't tell me merely hey, nosotros're going to take y'all off this trip. So, you tin can become exercise this or whatever. So, we too talked about when your family is going to be able to motility in with y'all in the pipeline, if you happen to come in with a family or your cross training. Meet what else we talked about. We talked about the point of life, how often you become to talk to your family during the deployment. Nosotros talked about the POTFF initiative, and all the great resources that they provide and how important and integral earth they are to the success of our people. And then, we talked about my kids a lot in the UK. And then we talked about, Hey, you got a girlfriend and you lot guys are disagree and merely brand the right pick.
Brian46:44
And the other thing that I forgot to mention on that just as a side notation, because there is once you actually get a CCT, PJ, SR or whatever. In that location's a certain amount of confidence that you gain and when you become out, there are more people that you know you'll have more opportunities than when you before you know yous'll exist through the hardest one of the hardest pipelines you'll be in amazing shape you lot'll have conviction and you'll exist around a bunch of other people that are like minded.
Peaches47:xviii
The number of doors that open up for you because the networking and the people that y'all become to come across is incredible.
Brian47:26
So, I only desire to throw that out in that location also because I forgot to mention in the first part, but thanks to each for wrapping it up.
Peaches47:33
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Trent47:56
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TLDR: The best things in life are non easy. Having a Family is no unlike. At that place are some unique challenges and benefits to being on team and having a family unit. Plan accordingly.
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